Well said Cody. Familiarity with industry standard software is almost as important (just as important?) as learning the fundamental engineering concepts, methods, and materials.
Original Message:
Sent: 06-26-2023 08:25 AM
From: Cody Obropta
Subject: Giving Interns Meaningful Experience
I'm no longer a student (graduated back in 2017), but I credit my summer internships with success I experienced after graduation.
I can't speak for all engineering schools, but if other universities are similar to Rutgers School of Engineering, you learn a lot of important material to help pass the FE and PE exams. What's lacking is the practical application and the instruction regarding specific tools that civil engineering firms are using. The reason why I was such an attractive candidate to hire out of school related to learning AutoCAD, ArcGIS, and Hydrocad in my summer internships. We used those programs to complete actual engineering designs and models which I was then able to print out and bring to interviews as a supplement to my resume. When engineering companies see a student has actually learned to do basic engineering design, they become a lot more valuable and desirable as a candidate for an open position.
The AutoCAD design class we had in engineering school was a joke. It didn't translate well into site design, grading, pipe networks, and a variety of other things civil engineers use in their professions. Thank goodness I learned a handful of shortcuts and workarounds while I was an intern because when I got hired along with a few other fresh engineering students out of school, I ended up having to teach them some of the basic AutoCAD commands.
In conclusion, an engineering firm hiring interns would do well to equip them with practical skills and experience with commonly used programs.
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Cody Obropta P.E., M.ASCE
Environmental Engineer
Bangor ME
Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2023 11:33 AM
From: Christopher Seigel
Subject: Giving Interns Meaningful Experience
There seem to be a lot of different opinions on what an internship SHOULD be. To some people, it is as hands-off as shadowing someone and seeing what different people at a company do day-to-day. To others, it is essentially the same thing as receiving full-time entry-level work. Some of this is driven by the needs and resources of each company, but some is also due to the level of responsibility that people in charge of the intern are willing to take on.
In my own experience with interns, we typically have them for 6 months at a time. In the work that I do, this is enough time to train them as we would with entry level staff. A lot of the work is data analysis in Excel, GIS, and R. These are all programs that I believe are worth their time to learn, even if many of the tasks are fairly simple.
Aside from learning software-specific skills, I also try to make sure that they understand the big picture. This includes the reason we are working on the tasks we have, how they contribute to the project at large, and how each other person on the team also contributes, using the intern's work as part of the whole project. This also involves attending meetings and being included on project-related emails.
By the time the intern completes their tenue with us, my goal is for them to have developed a few new skills to bring elsewhere (or bring back), and to have seen what it is like to work on one type of water/environmental project. This is at the city/municipal level in an environment comprised of civil servants and supported by additional consulting staff.
If you were to take an intern, how would you approach it to give them meaningful experience?
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Christopher Seigel P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer
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