In the ultra-urban setting, such as Philly, NYC, Baltimore, etc., we know that the sweet spot for having a meaningful impact on CSO's is managing ~50-55% of the impervious surface areas within the area tributary to an outfall. We also know that only ~25% of that area is area available in the public ROW, and a lot of those areas are challenging in and of themselves due to utilities, topography, etc.
A successful CSO-reduction program dependent on GI needs to look "Beyond the Streets" and into other areas such as triangle parks, vacant lots, school yards, etc. Partnership with private property owners is also critical, and finding a way to incentive managing public runoff on private property is going to be a hot topic of discussion in the coming years.
Shameless plus....I just did a presentation on this very topic at the LID Conference, and we will continue the discussion at SWS in November.
Mike
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Michael D. Devuono P.E., M.ASCE
Senior Water Engineer
Arcadis U.S.
Philadelphia PA
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2018 09:45
From: Morgan Byars
Subject: CSOs & Green Infrastructure - Targeting Solutions?
I may be just repeating what others have already stated, but the consistent theme in this thread is that GI is a tool in the suite of solutions to be considered and depending on your definition of green may or may not get you to your goal alone. The definition is highly variable by locality where geometry (shallow) or function (infiltration) may be a limiting factor in the descriptor. Therefore a holistic solution with end in mind should be the starting point and see where green adds value depending on the site constraints, stated goals and the owners maintenance resources.
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Morgan Byars P.E., M.ASCE
Managing Engineer
Austin TX
Original Message:
Sent: 09-11-2018 08:05
From: Elizabeth Fassman-Beck
Subject: CSOs & Green Infrastructure - Targeting Solutions?
Green infrastructure (GI) solutions are on the rise for addressing combined sewer overflows (CSOs), but are we strategically targeting the "right" source areas for controls? Using Hoboken, NJ as an example (high density development with ~95% build out and almost the only "permeable" spaces in pocket parks), I've measured that roofs occupy 57% of all the impervious area. I suggest we start targeting GI towards roof runoff. What do you think?
I'll be sharing more thoughts on the topic in a live TEDx on Wed. Sept 12 at 4 pm EDT. You're welcome to tune in livestream.
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Elizabeth Fassman-Beck, Ph.D., M.ASCE
ASCE-NJ Educator of the Year, 2018
<maskemail>efassman@...</maskemail>
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