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The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

  • 1.  The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 24 days ago

    <>The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture[1]

    How can we challenge the rigid masculine norms that have defined the engineering field for decades and drive the change toward a culture that values mental health, inclusion, and diversity?

    Traditional ideas of masculinity – toughness, self-reliance, and relentless focus – have shaped the engineering profession for decades, driving immense economic growth whilst also creating a culture that can feel rigid and isolating, especially for those who don't fit the mold. 

    As societal conversations about diversity and inclusion expand, men – particularly those in male-dominated sectors like engineering – may sometimes feel positioned as part of the problem rather than as part of the solution. This perception can lead to caution and, at times, defensiveness, especially when discussing topics around gender and inclusion. 

    Yet beneath this hesitation lies a more personal struggle: for many men in the field, conforming to narrow definitions of "success" often means sacrificing emotional well-being and work-life balance. The impact on mental health and career satisfaction has been significant, leading to documented retention issues[2] and a shortage of diverse perspectives across the industry.

    Cheers, Bill

    [1] https://www.ewb-uk.org/the-masculinity-trap/?mc_cid=95a72ee06a&mc_eid=8e6b9743bb

    [2] https://vgcgroup.co.uk/news/how-can-engineering-fix-its-staff-retention-problem/



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 2.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 20 days ago

    Read both of these articles and your questions...

    Our role as engineers should not be focused on inclusion and diversity at all. Our job is to efficiently build stuff that is useful and safe to the public. Our function has nothing to do with leading social change. As soon as we start focusing on that, we weaken ourselves. The article states we should be "...making more room for women to lead, even if that means stepping back at times." So I should step back and allow someone else to lead just because that person is a woman? What if that person is a woman who clearly lacks the ability to be a strong leader or engineer? Should I step back and defer my leadership to encourage other diversities? I suggest that does no good for anybody. As a leader in my company, I step back sometimes and mentor as a training opportunity for young engineers/project managers. But I target potential leaders based on my observation of their skills and leadership traits--not based on gender, ethnicity, or any other non-engineering or leadership skill related attributes. Engineering attributes are objective, so I hope we're not arguing those. But what are leadership attributes? There are objective data driven metrics for that too, and none of them involve gender or race. My wife is a good civil engineer. She is tough, self-reliant, and has relentless focus. Call those masculine traits if you want, and fight against them if you want, but those are traits that lead to accomplishment. 



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    John Dudlicek P.E., M.ASCE
    Vice President
    Highland IN
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  • 3.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 20 days ago

    Something I've often said when asked about being a "woman engineer" or "female engineer" is that I don't really want to be known by those labels. I want to primarily be known as a dang good civil engineer. I don't have a problem with that label occasionally being used in the proper context, but it is easy for it to go too far.

    I think there is a place to recognize our differences, but I think we limit ourselves when we default to categorizing people into gender or race. I know women who can default to being cold, rigid workaholics. I know men who handle themselves with gentleness and an understanding that there is a place for appropriate vulnerability in the workplace.

    Where I do agree with Bill's original post is that we need to understand that we are all better at our jobs and treat each other better when we aren't burning ourselves out. Recognizing the importance of emotional intelligence in the workplace helps us be better leaders, designers, and consultants. (Something we discussed in a recent leadership training* is that to achieve engagement in employees, you have to be able to have influence. To have influence, they have to trust you. To trust you, you have to have healthy communication together. All of that takes some emotional intelligence.)

    Instead of labeling traits as masculine or feminine, I think we need to do a better job as leaders at modeling healthy attitudes and behaviors in the workplace and having conversations when we don't see that happening in employees or other leaders. We can do all of that without framing it around diversity, equity, and inclusion which can be politicized or misused in the workplace.

    *The leadership training is based on the book "Counter Mentor Leadership: How to Unlock the Potential of the 4-Generation Workplace"



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    Heidi C. Wallace, P.E., M.ASCE
    Tulsa, OK
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  • 4.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 19 days ago

    Thank you Ms. Wallace.  I agree!



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    Aaron Meyer P.E., L.S., M.ASCE
    Meyer Civil Engineering, Inc
    Bakersfield, CA
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  • 5.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 19 days ago

    I agree with Mr. Dudicek 100%!  Well, accept that my wife is not a civil engineer, but my oldest daughter is in college studying civil engineering.  She has interned for me for the last 2 summers and exhibits those same qualities that John mentioned above.



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    Aaron Meyer P.E., L.S., M.ASCE
    Meyer Civil Engineering, Inc
    Bakersfield, CA
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  • 6.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 18 days ago
    • Re: "So I should step back and allow someone else to lead just because that person is a woman?"

    Of course not!

    However, I find now that men over 50 still harbor the saying:

    "Men hunt and fish, women cook and sew."

    And men between 25 to 45 are more likely to engage their engineering colleagues that happen to be women.

    In 1991 or so when ASCE started the "Women and Diversity in CE," if you went around the conference and looked in each meeting room,

    if a woman was there, she had to take the notes and get the coffee.

    Today, we now have the "Society of Women Engineers."

    Cheers,

    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 7.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 17 days ago

    Great! Mission accomplished! Good job to those who spearheaded that. 

    So at this point, articles about "the masculinity trap" and recommendations to "step aside and let a woman lead" are counterproductive. Let's leave social change to....idk, social media or something. But not engineering. There is no need to "rethink engineering culture" anymore. (Well, at least in this regard. There are a bunch of other "engineering culture" issues we have...like forgetting that we are engineers, not regulation hawks...but I digress.)

    And for the record, my civil engineer wife also cooks and sews; I fish; and we love it this way. She wants nothing to do with fishing; I want nothing to do with sewing. And she won't let me cook because I'm terrible at it! I do the dishes...that works. 



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    John Dudlicek P.E., M.ASCE
    Vice President
    Highland IN
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  • 8.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 12 days ago

    I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for making this post, Dr. Hayden. I hope the future generations will be able to grasp the idea of inclusivity more. After all, engineers build products to serve humans. And both the process and the end goal should have all people/communities in consideration.



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    Hui Yang S.M.ASCE
    State College PA
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  • 9.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 13 days ago
    Edited by Tirza Austin 13 days ago

    Aaron, I agree with you and many other respondents. Our responsibility as engineers is to serve the public by providing well thought out and designed projects and products. DEI is a social goal that resolves itself. I have been blessed by associations with many women engineers and technicians. They came in with many talents and all did good work. I have even had the opportunity to recommend several for senior management and ownership opportunities. I'm happy that my own daughter became an engineer. I regretted the early entrance of women unto engineering only because of the bidding war so firms could demonstrate their progressive positions. Small to moderate sized firms could not compete with the early demand. I often wondered if any of the women engineers or technicians I associated with had some doubt about their own talent and worth because of their elevated salary or advancement as earlier entrants in a "male" profession. I certainly hope not. Good people with talent deserve to lead our professions. Thankfully, I had the privilege to work with many of them.



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    James Rabine P.E., F.ASCE
    Consulting Engineer
    Anderson, Eckstein & Westrick, Inc.
    Clinton Twp MI
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  • 10.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 18 days ago

    Mentoring only those we judge to possess objective leadership skills can be an exercise in self-deception. People in sales have long known that it's easiest to establish rapport and gain trust with clients who perceive them to be "one of us." Likewise, each of us is susceptible to overvaluing the talents of someone who shares our background or our habits.

    So, yes, sometimes we need to encourage the non-obvious leader who doesn't look like us or act like us. Encourage them to take a leadership role and help them develop as leaders, not because they are a woman or minority in our profession but because we need great talent that shouldn't be thwarted by our inability to spot it. In 55 years of engineering, I've been pleased by how many of my staff unexpectedly blossomed when encouraged to grow, not just anointed.

    Bill Mc



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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  • 11.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 18 days ago

    Definitely family first and obviously that doesn't mean people without kids are left out. Everyone has family and everyone benefits where those commitments are accommodated. This should be across the board for men and women.

    Focusing on inclusion and diversity may not be necessary if the policies of a workplace already accomplish these goals. This is not always the case though, even in workplaces with diversity. Is there diversity in the staff but not diversity in the management? If mentoring ignores it in a diverse community this is problematic. It's like trying to make the case for not having safety training because "...we have never had an accident and our staff is safety-conscious..."



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    Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
    Civil Engineer IV
    City of Milwaukee
    Milwaukee WI
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  • 12.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 13 days ago

    Since most engineers work in firms and there is statistical evidence that construction has a high rate of suicides and a low rate of retention, especially of women, it appears that some thought should be given to the culture surrounding construction and the firms that support it.

    The actual engineering part is one thing, the culture surrounding it is another. 

    Looking at how we interact and examining our underlying biases and whether or not we are creating an environment in which all capable people can flourish is critical.  

    Besides that, we as civil and structural engineers need to reposition ourselves.  There is no way that the current valuation of our time and expertise matches what we bring to society.  It is possible that in examining the culture that surrounds our current work we might also figure out how to ensure that our valuation matches the responsibility that we take on in designing and executing the infrastructure that supports our society.



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    Sarah Halsey P.E., M.ASCE
    New York NY
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  • 13.  RE: The Masculinity Trap: Rethinking engineering culture

    Posted 12 days ago

    Recognize that construction by definition requires some level of grit and resilience.  At the end of the day, whatever you are designing needs to get built.  Building is a messy and hazardous operation.  As much as we try to mitigate risk and create safe conditions, it's often challenging work that requires more force (and cursing) than expected.  Understand that the people working in the field may have a different background than a design professional and maintaining a good relationship with them is important. While these qualities are often associated with men, they are not exclusive to any gender.  When given the option, most tough guys would much prefer an easier way of doing things.  A blended perspective helps develop better solutions.



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    Chad Morrison P.E., F.ASCE
    Professional Engineer
    Greenville RI
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