I am in the process of obtaining my E.I.T. as well as graduating with a degree in Civil Engineering this summer. I currently have offers from two companies (one General Contractor and another engineering firm) and I am trying to make a decision on what company to work for based on my ability to obtain my P.E. after completing the necessary work experience.
I have questions regarding the capability of obtaining a P.E. without working directly under a licensed engineer, is this feasible? One company that is trying to recruit me is a general contractor who I have interned for and built relationships with the people there, I personally love the company, but I will feel unaccomplished if I can not get my P.E. They have said that it is possible to use construction experience for the 2 required years, make connections with an engineer on the projects I will be working on, and to use them as references to provide to the board. Has anyone seen this before? Or even better, been successful at receiving an approval from the board using this method? I have only heard of this from them and was under the impression you must obtain the work experience by working directly under a licensed engineer.
Can anyone provide me guidance on this? I have done a lot of research and even reached out to the California Board but have not heard back, and have gotten a lot of mixed responses from the searches I have done. I am running out of time to make my decision and this will be the deciding factor for me. I apologize for the long winded post but I figured more information was better than less. I would appreciate any help you can provide.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Austin! I help run LA YMF's P.E. Review Course, so I get these kinds of questions often. Also, I'm personally getting ready to send in my application.
First is to check the application form: https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/pubs/forms/ceapp.pdfAnd then the engagement form:https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/pubs/forms/perefsfrm.pdfhttps://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/applicants/civilpe_errf_instructions_2010.pdfIt seems like you have to work under at least one California P.E. Have you considered asking your employer to do this at least on a temporary basis? There are several "engineering" capacities you can partake in construction, whether it's running calcs or making schedules. I think the bottom of the page says it best, "making sound judgment in engineering decisions." If there is a P.E. at your firm, maybe this is a conversation you can have with them on how they have concurred with or helped critique your sound judgments. You might even have to jump a level or too. I would try to make sure that this primary reference is within the same company as you, or who you receive direct work from (if it be a client).While evaluating job offers, you should ask how your company will help your professional development. A job should be a mutually beneficial situation: they use you to make money, so you should be able to use them to help build skills and advance your career.The other references can be people who you interact with (I.e. other companies/organizations).
Personally, what I am going to do is put together a "resume" of projects I have worked on and how I have used "sound judgment" in making decisions that is based on the engagement form. I'm going to give it to all those who I will be listing as references (that aren't my supervisor) so I can make sure that their responses can align.Another note for construction: make sure that your experience is civil engineering. I know traffic engineering and utility engineering sometimes have trouble pushing through applications, so make sure your listed experience covers the 'civil' portion and the 'engineering' portion.
Last resource I have is to reach out to your local YMF'ers; someone will know someone who knows someone.
https://sacymf.org/Hope I was of some help!-Sam