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Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

  • 1.  Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-12-2016 03:25 PM

    Good morning all,

    I was hoping to get some feedback from Architectural Engineers as to what their specific job functions entail. I am pursuing a degree with an end goal of being a licensed PE. I have to change my degree program due to changes in the State law for licensing of PE's and I want to make sure that I transition to the best suited curriculum for me. I was planning on becoming a Structural Engineer; however, I recently learned that an Architectural Engineer is a multi-disciplinary engineer, which suits both my past work experience and knowledge base. (I transitioned from 10 years in construction to almost 10 years in building code enforcement). What I am asking for is some feedback as to what practicing Architectural Engineers actually do. I was always under the impression that an engineer was not allowed to prepare drawings and specifications for which they were not licensed to do... eg, an Electrical Engineer is not permitted to prepare drawings and specs which have any mechanical scope. What I have discovered is that this may not be necessarily correct, especially with Architectural Engineering. Would anyone be able to provide some insight for me regarding this specific branch of engineering?

    Thank you so much,

    Jake

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    Jake Doub S.M.ASCE
    Student
    Hollywood SC
    (843)302-2224
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  • 2.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-14-2016 10:33 AM

    Jake:

    I had been in a similar situation in my undergraduate studies and  transferred into Civil Engineer program. I focused on structural engineering after I graduated and subsequently obtained a Master's in Civil with a focus on construction management. Depending on what state(s) you plan to practice in and types of structures ( or industries) you realistically can not be an expert in  so many specialties.

    It is great to have a broad knowledge base and I have used my mechanical course work to become a Certified Energy Manager and also a LEED AP B D+C professional but actually designing all disciplines is very difficult for large structures. ( maybe residential is possible  if that is your goal).

    Now with Passive House & Net Zero and the new Energy codes there are many related opportunities but  again accomplishing all design tasks with very  tight deadlines  requires a " design team" & collaboration with structural , MEP engrs , civil & architects. ( not to mention Geotechnical, seismic, acoustical design etc.).

    You should learn as much  but focus  on one or two specific disciplines ( within Civil ) to practice design and check state licensing requirements.

    I work with many consultants where I manage Specialty testing contracts and I  am involved with forensic firms,geotech, surveying and materials testing labs.

    Best

    Mike

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    Michael Dirac P.E., M.ASCE
    Structural Engineer
    NYC School Construction Auth
    Long Island City NY
    (718) 472-8785



  • 3.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-15-2016 12:22 PM

    Jake,

     

    My degree is in architectural engineering. In my experience the field of architectural engineering was designed such that one person/firm can design the entire scope of a building (structural, mechanical systems, electrical systems, illumination, plumbing, energy efficiency, etc.) It lends itself to specialty or delegated engineering services and usually is delegated or specialty work under the structural EOR.  My specialty happens to be design, analysis and consulting of the building envelope for hurricane prone regions.

     

    I actually published a book on engineering entrepreneurship and the below is my description of each of the three disciplines of Civil, Structural and Architectural Engineering:

     

    Civil: 

    The field of Civil Engineering deals with the design of transportation and site infrastructure to aid in land transportation and travel.

    It typically focuses on the design of the transportation infrastructure including roadway, site planning, and bridges from a structural and planning perspective.

    Civil Engineers specialize in the analysis and design to support structural forces (dead loads, live loads, wind loads, snow loads, seismic loads, hydrostatic loads, hydrodynamic loads, etc.) associated with the design of roadways and roadway systems, bridges, culverts, foundations, retaining structures, etc.

    Potential areas of specialty include the transportation and roadway/highway/bridge industry with an emphasis on structural design of infrastructure. The most obvious areas of specialty are found within the Department of Transportation and private sector civil engineering firms. 

     

    Structural: 

    The field of Structural Engineering deals with the design of buildings, structures, and structural systems to aid with safe storage, shelter and habitat of people and property.

    It typically focuses on the design of all forms of structural systems. It is often lumped under civil engineering but there is a concerted effort to distinguish the field of structural engineering from civil engineering.

    Structural Engineers specialize in the analysis and design to support structural forces (dead loads, live loads, wind loads, snow loads, seismic loads, hydrostatic loads, hydrodynamic loads, etc.) associated with the design of all forms of structural systems and components. 

    Potential areas of specialty include the building construction industry with an emphasis on structural design in the residential, commercial, industrial and retail structures to name a few. The most obvious areas of specialty are found within the building construction industry and private sector civil and structural engineering firms. 

     

    Architectural: 

    The field of Architectural Engineering deals with the design of building services and systems including structural, electrical, mechanical, plumbing, and construction management to aid in safe storage, shelter, and habitat of people and property, waste management and disposal, human comfort, life safety, and safe and efficient construction as it relates to building structures. 

    It typically focuses on the design of buildings and building systems. It is a combination of structural, electrical and mechanical engineering specific to buildings. 

    Architectural Engineers specialize in the analysis and design to support structural forces (dead loads, live loads, wind loads, snow loads, seismic loads, hydrostatic loads, hydrodynamic loads, etc.), electrical loads and mechanical loads associated with the design of buildings and building services. Architectural Engineers are also trained in construction management and architectural design. 

    Potential areas of specialty include the building construction industry with an emphasis on building services and systems design including structural. The most obvious area of specialty are found within the building construction industry, electrical and mechanical engineering firms, general contracting firms, specialty engineering firms, and architectural firms.

    I hope this helps

     

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  • 4.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-15-2016 12:23 PM

    All,

    I have been a professional engineer, with a Civil Engineering BS, for over 30 years. In that time, I have worked on projects that require many other types of engineers. My experience in designing buildings (commercial and residential) and civil projects (water supply, waste treatment, gas and electrical utilities, and environmental) has shown me the need for a broad need for all types of engineers.  An architectural engineer needs training and experience in broad applications like structural, mechanical, electrical, environmental, and geology applications. The Architectural Engineer will give a young student the exposure to the best uses of all the above applications. If I could go back to my choice of engineering when I started college, I would take Architectural Engineering for my major.

    Jack E. Reinhard, P.E.

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    Jack Reinhard P.E., M.ASCE
    RETIRED
    Atlanta GA
    (210)248-8086



  • 5.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-18-2016 01:46 PM

    You can find an example curriculum

    for ARE here...www.are-cns.ksu.edu

    I hope this helps!

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    Don Phillippi P.E., S.E., R.A., M.ASCE
    Associate Professor
    Kansas State University
    Manhattan KS
    (909)262-4839



  • 6.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-19-2016 10:21 AM

    Hi Jake,

    I have inserted information related to the Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago, IL. I completed my undergraduate studies in Civil Engineering with a specialization in Structural Engineering. 

    http://engineering.iit.edu/programs/undergraduate/bachelor-science-architectural-engineering

    After working in the field before and after graduation, I visited a number of existing buildings with envelopes in poor condition, missing mechanical maintenance and inadequate lighting. Curiosity led to investigating advanced studies in Architectural Engineering academic programs. IIT in Chicago provides an in depth focus with hands on research. I recommend contacting Professor Brent Stephens, brent@.... He is an excellent adviser and lecturer.

    http://engineering.iit.edu/programs/graduate/master-engineering-architectural-engineering

    I hope this helps!

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    Julie Chandler
    Graduate student ME ARCH EGR 2016




  • 7.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-20-2016 11:46 AM

    Hi all,

    Try Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo Architectural Engineering program

    Here is the link for the program.

    http://www.fang88.com/v2/agent/?from=timeline&isappinstalled=0#/app/articleDetail?aid=26b8d57885b334976db0a07&uid=d982e78aa059c22091ce2c3e23d3d8

    I graduated 19 years ago and still think this programs benefits us the most.

    I hope this will help.

    Best,

    Clara






  • 8.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-21-2016 11:39 AM

    Good morning,

     

    I too, truly support the field of study in Architectural Engineering.  I received a B.S. in AE – Environmental and Structural Systems emphasis at MSOE (Milwaukee School of Engineering); the same program now offers a Master's Degree in Architectural Engineering.  I believe AE programs develop and train the modern day "master" builders.

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Jason Leffingwell, PE, LEED-AP

    Mechanical Engineer

     

    MSOE Alumni - 2008

     






  • 9.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-23-2016 08:38 PM

    Hi All,

    I am sorry that somehow I sent a wrong link for the CAL POLY, SLO, Architectural Engineering Program.

    Here is the link again.

    Undergraduate Program

    Calpoly remove preview
     
    Undergraduate Program
    Program Description A highly successful program since its inception in 1946, the architectural engineering department was first created within the School of Engineering. After becoming a more professional program for educating architects and structural engineers in 1950, the program became a department in the newly founded School of Architecture and Environmental Design in 1968.
    View this on Calpoly >

    Good Luck!

    Clara

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    Clara Ting P.E., M.ASCE, M.S., M.B.A.
    San Jose CA




  • 10.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-14-2016 10:33 AM

    I work as a structural engineer for buildings.  My cross-disciplinary knowledge is useful in collaborating as opposed to actually signing and sealing non-structural documents.  I have an appreciation for the needs of other disciplines and can suggest alterations to solve other problems.  Like moving a duct, or moving a beam, or developing an integrated system to solve multiple problems with one stroke.   

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    Brian Falconer P.E., M.ASCE
    Principal
    Severud Associates
    Maplewood NJ
    (973) 763-6751



  • 11.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-15-2016 12:21 PM

    I work as an architectural consultant. I've worked on Civil, electrical, mechanical and structural drawings. I've done just about anything and everything as I believe is expected of an architect. One of the commenters made a statement that suggested it is difficult to be an expert in all disciplines. We can have a broad knowledge of how systems work together, which I believe is necessary for all design professionals. But at the same time we should only be really designing things we have expertise in. Most of the time we need assistance from others. Especially on larger projects. It's always possible to layout a design that someone else has created as long as the expert in that design puts their own stamp on it. Only stamp or approve work you are willing to be lawfully liable for. God bless!

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    Rameses Sorrell Aff.M.ASCE
    Jah Jah Productions
    Los Angeles CA
    (323)907-8269



  • 12.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-19-2016 01:26 PM

    Good morning,

    Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my question, and your efforts to help a prospective fellow PE. I was enrolled in an ABET Accredited "Technology" engineering course, and learned that SC will no longer accept any degree accredited by the ETAC (Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission). I am now looking for a curriculum that is accredited by ABET's EAC (Engineering Accreditation Commission). Since I have a full time job, a long commute, and a family to take care of, I was hoping to find another online or partial online accredited curriculum in Architectural Engineering. I think that Architectural Engineering is by far the best option for me and I wanted to say thank you again for all the input so far. 

    Sincerely,

    Jake

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    Jake Doub S.M.ASCE
    Student
    Hollywood SC
    (843)302-2224



  • 13.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-21-2016 11:39 AM

    Jake

    I would definitely check out the AE program at IIT. Many of the graduate students work as I do full time and need to take online courses that are ABET accredited which is very important for licensing and graduating. A good contact is Professor Brent Stephens at (312) 567-3356. When you call mention my name and he will be glad to speak with you!

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    Julie Chandler S.M.ASCE
    Aurora IL
    (331)250-0953



  • 14.  RE: Job functions of an Architectural Engineer

    Posted 07-25-2016 10:28 AM

    Jake,

    I graduated from Drexel University in Philadelphia with an Architectural Engineering degree.  The curriculum (found here: Architectural Engineering - College of Engineering) encompasses a broad understanding of buildings and building systems, a blend of engineering (theoretical and technical) with architecture (history and creativity).  While all Architectural Engineers have a broad understand of all building systems and how they work together, once you begin to work, you'll typically become specialized in one or two of the building system areas - structures and foundations, HVAC and plumbing, power and lighting, etc.  Example:  When I took my PE exam, I sat for the Civil, Water Resources focus.

    Advice when selecting a program and degree: Do the research on the school and program.  Review the school and program's accreditation, etc.  <To sit for PE, you'll need to find an ABET accredited program.>

    Review licensing requirements from the state you plan to get licensed.  Each state is different in perquisites for taking the test, and has different regulations on what you can sign and seal after becoming a PE.  You also mention Structural Engineering; some states require an SE as opposed to a PE.

    Last piece of advice - keep doing what you're doing - by asking other professionals questions!

    Good luck!  Feel free to send me an email if you'd like to discuss in more depth. 

    College of Engineering remove preview
    Architectural Engineering - College of Engineering
    Drexel's Architectural Engineering undergraduate program prepares its graduates for professional work in the design, construction, and maintenance of commercial, institutional, and industrial building systems. The goal of the program is to develop an engineer who is familiar with all aspects of safe, economic construction and can work effectively with a team of architects, engineers and contractors.
    View this on College of Engineering >
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    Erica Antoine P.E.
    Burns Engineering, Inc.
    Philadelphia, PA
    eantoine@...