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  • 1.  Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-28-2017 10:40 AM
    ​I have been asked what are the design wind loads in Mongolia.  Does anyone have suggestions for where this information can be obtained.

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    David Thompson P.E., M.ASCE
    Principal
    KTA Structural Engineers Ltd.
    Calgary AB
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  • 2.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-31-2017 05:47 PM
    Hi David,

    Since the power of wind differs in each region, the design wind load are specified according to each country's loading code.
    So I guess you have to look for this kind of source.

    Sincerely,





  • 3.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-31-2017 05:48 PM
    There is a UFC document that has design values for seismic, wind and snow for American military installations located in the U.S. and abroad. It's UFC 3-301-01, Structural Engineering. https://www.wbdg.org/FFC/DOD/UFC/ufc_3_301_01_2013_c3.pdf
    Unfortunately, I'm not sure if there would be anything specific to Mongolia. Additionally, you can check ATC as thy may have some design wind speeds for regions outside of the U.S.
    Good luck.

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    David Topete P.E., S.E., M.ASCE
    San Leandro CA
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  • 4.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-31-2017 05:49 PM
    The paper of the link that follows references design wind pressures for a wind turbine in Mongolia.
    The authors of that paper (included email addresses) come from Mongolia.
    They should be able to give you the answer, if the information in that paper is not sufficient
    Panos

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.854.9514&rep=rep1&type=pdf

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    Panos Kiousis A.M.ASCE
    Associate Prof
    Colorado School Of Mines
    Golden CO
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  • 5.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-31-2017 05:49 PM
    The wind loads of ASCE 7-16 for Dade County, Florida should cover those possible for Mongolia.

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    Robert Bullard P.E., M.ASCE
    President
    Ahimsa Technic Inc
    Ponce Inlet FL
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  • 6.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 07-31-2017 05:49 PM
    David,
    I didn't see a wind speed for Mongolia in John Holmes' book, so I expect you'll need to reference the Chinese and Russian wind maps, since they are immediately south and north. Finding and harmonizing those may be the biggest challenge of your project!

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    Yarrow Fewless Aff.M.ASCE
    Principal
    CPP Inc
    Fort Collins CO
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  • 7.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 08-01-2017 01:20 PM

    Your suggestion of using the Chinese and Russian wind standards is a good idea ( one I actually used)  Mongolia is a big hole for wind information except for mine sites.

    The conversion back to units is a challenge and the greater challenge providing the design at the level of safety required by the country.

    Collecting international wind standards is an on going project of mine.



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    David Thompson P.E., M.ASCE
    Principal
    KTA Structural Engineers Ltd.
    Calgary AB
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  • 8.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 08-01-2017 01:19 PM
    Hi David,

    I think you could check local wind speed in Mongoloa (airport, local weather department) and topographic condition in the area where you´re designing in Mongolia.
    Of course, the specs in ASCE 7-16 helps you in order to get wind speed, but local conditions are important.

    Regards


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    Victor Escalante-Cervera CP, A.M.ASCE
    Project Manager
    Epsa Labco, Ingenieros Consultores
    Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
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  • 9.  RE: Design Wind Speed in Mongolia

    Posted 08-02-2017 10:16 AM
    Hi David 
    It's located in the southern Gobi Desert, 500km south of the Mongolian capital Ulaanbaatar, the 50MW wind farm site comprises approximately 72km of remote, open desert and an isolated mountain location. The Mongolian weather is so extreme that the site closes over the winter months when temperatures drop to -25°C, while in the summer the site bakes in up to 40°C. Clean Energy Asia LLC "Tsetsii 50MW Wind Farm"
    For more information,please visit http://newcom.mn/en/

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    Byambadorj Nayantsetseg S.M.ASCE
    Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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