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  • 1.  Tub Girder Deck Panels

    Posted 04-26-2018 10:27 AM
    I have a unique scenario on a tub girder bridge deck, the decking material must be removed for inspection of the deck from inside of the tub girders. The access to the tub girders are small hatches (less than 3'x2') at either end of a 1200' total span. Gaps in the deck to remove materials is being explored but at some point there will be closure pours on the deck. I am looking for suggestions and even fabricators that have ideas on prefabricated small sized deck forms that can be easily installed and removed and fit through our access.

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    Brian Grom A.M.ASCE
    Project Manager
    WI
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  • 2.  RE: Tub Girder Deck Panels

    Posted 04-27-2018 11:04 AM
    With that long of a span, I would assume the tub girders are big enough that you could inspect the entire deck from within the girders.  I never heard of removing decking to inspect a bridge in my few years as a bridge inspector, but I guess there are always special circumstances.

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    Adam Shelton P.E., M.ASCE
    PROJECT MANAGER
    Suwanee GA
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  • 3.  RE: Tub Girder Deck Panels

    Posted 04-30-2018 02:58 PM
    This is a one-off requirement that we have never seen and the DOT is not even entertaining options outside of being able to inspect the completed bridge deck from inside the tub girder with no lost deck forms in place. The forms must be removed, anything in place not an option. With our limited options to access and strip, and trying to minimize gaps in the deck to remove all the deck form material, I'm looking for ideas on efficient ways to form and strip our closure pours to complete the deck.

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    Brian Grom A.M.ASCE
    Project Manager
    Hilbert WI
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  • 4.  RE: Tub Girder Deck Panels

    Posted 05-01-2018 03:47 PM

    Assuming you can make a temporary access opening through the deck, consider this idea.  Sawcut a deck opening about 3 ft by 4 ft (long dimension across the deck).  Perform your inspection.  After inspection is complete, close the opening with a concrete plug.

    To make the plug, first bush-hammer the saw cut surface to increase aggregate bonding.  Drill horizontal dowels into the existing deck and grout with epoxy.  Be generous with length of dowel to help compensate for unknowns.  Space the dowels about the same as the existing rebar. Avoid cutting any rebar already captured in the deck as much as possible.

    Make a frame out of 4 in x 6 in angles (or 6 in x 8 in if you like) thru-bolted to the underside of the deck with the long leg vertical. The bolt holes should be at least the deck thickness away from the saw cut opening.  For the form use two layers of ¾ in plywood cut large enough to overlap the opening about 6 inches all around.  Support the plywood with angles bolted to the 6 in vertical leg, say every 12 in spacing, using simple angle bracket connections.  No welding needed.  The plywood does not have to be in one piece as long as the joints are over a support angle.

    Complete the reinforcing for the new plug pour by tying onto the dowels.  Consider some kind of bonding agent applied to the raw deck concrete edge, then place a mix that is comparable to the existing deck mix, including aggregate size and hardness.  The plug concrete should wear at the same rate as the existing surface.  Low slump low shrinkage would be best, but cure time would also be a factor if traffic disruption is involved.  Vibrate the pour, but not too much.

     When sufficient strength develops strip the forms from below, passing the angle pieces and other hardware out though the access opening.  The plywood can be cut into smaller pieces with a battery powered saw if they are too big for the opening.  Remove the bolts and plug the bolt holes in the deck.

     Sweep up, pack up, send an invoice to the owner, go home and have a beer.



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    Norman Voigt P.E., P.L.S., F.ASCE
    Retired
    Pittsburgh PA
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  • 5.  RE: Tub Girder Deck Panels

    Posted 04-27-2018 11:05 AM
    Brian

    My first suggestion would be increase the access size already proposed in the Tub Girder.  Creating an opening in the deck will have issues gaining access due to the reinforcing steel.  The steel would have to be left out in the opening and then either doweled and epoxied in or use threaded anchors.  Either way this introduces other joints in the deck which should be avoided if possible.  Not sure on where you would locate the opening, but it could end up in a traffic area.

    Also keep in mind this creates a confined space regardless of how you access so precautions will have to be taken in advance of entering the space (refer to OSHA guidelines).  If the opening in the girder is higher than your knees, you will also have to think about a ladder on the inside to get in and out.

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    David Bradeson P.E., M.ASCE
    Regional Project Manager
    VA
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