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  • 1.  The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-07-2024 11:52 PM

    Faced with compelling evidence that the ratio of fatal and nonfatal injuries is not constant,

    there has been a desire to identify what is different about SIFs.

    Within the safety profession, the idea that the things that hurt people are not the same as the things that kill people

    has begun to replace the antiquated view that SIFs will be prevented by addressing LSIs.

    Cheers,

    Bill

    Byby  Arnaldo Bayona, S.M.ASCE; Matthew R. Hallowell, A.M.ASCE, and Siddharth Bhandari, A.M.ASCE3

    [1J. Constr. Eng. Manage., 2024, 150(8): 04024089



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 2.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-08-2024 06:02 PM

    Great to know. Further to the cited, there are some other sources on different safety protocols and terminologies

    Here are two that may add to the interest:

    An S-Word Worth Knowing

    Standardized Leading Safety Indicators

    Dilip

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    Dr. Dilip K Barua, Ph.D

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  • 3.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-23-2024 09:31 AM

    Thanks for providing this background reference. Before weighing in on the original question, I'm curious about the background of SIFs, SILs, and SIS and the case for action. This feels like a combination of the well-established bow tie analysis and managing risk to ALARP with new names. 



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    Mitch Winkler P.E.(inactive), M.ASCE
    Houston, TX
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  • 4.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-30-2024 10:31 AM

    Mitch, here are something more I like to share.

    You are right. All such acronyms are circular in a sense. New acronyms appear as emphasis shifts or as new thinking emerges. They result from the underlying realization that risk is not something that can be eliminated – but rather can be minimized. The question then arises – how to define a certain Safe Tolerable Threshold (STT) during the minimization process. The STT definition varies among industries – and as we are talking about, construction industry is just one of them.

    Perhaps a summary list of acronyms will indicate the nature of diversity:

    Those having a legal tone

    ALARP: As Low As Reasonably Practicable (UK 1974)

    ALARA: As Low As Reasonably Achievable (US radiation risk)

    SFAIRP: So Far As Is Reasonably Practicable (UK, NZ health and safety)

    AFAP: As Far As Possible (health Canada)

    And, those starting with 'Safety' – are more tuned to scientific nature

    SIF: Safety Instrumented Function

    SIL: Safety Integrity Level

    SIS: Safety Instrumented Systems

    SRS: Safety Requirements Specification

    SLC: Safety Life Cycle

    The difference between the two systems can be noted – risk is as low as possible – while safety is as high as possible. Both are definable in probability scales.

    As one can understand, the rationality of finding a satisfactory cost-benefit ratio underlines all STT definitions. But, then there is no uniquely acceptable definition across the board – therefore disputes, court-cases and legal definitions and re-definitions come into the picture.

    Dilip

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    Dr. Dilip K Barua, Ph.D

    Website Links and Profile




  • 5.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-31-2024 11:09 AM

    Dilip, thanks for this constructive overview of the different acronyms and approaches for managing risk/safety.  To the larger community following this discussion, as I work to gain further insight into this new world of S-based vocabulary and approach, I wonder about the maturity of this new approach. I looked at the website that Bill H. posted, https://www.csra.colorado.edu/, and was hoping to find clarity. Unfortunately, I could not find anything useful on the site. Maybe the valuable content is behind a paywall, which is not helpful. I was further puzzled to find SIF defined as Serious Injury and Fatality. See https://www.csra.colorado.edu/uniqueprecursorsofsifs.This is also not helpful. It does not feel like the S-based approach is ready for prime time, and potential users should take notice. Hopefully, somebody will jump in and prove me wrong.



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    Mitch Winkler P.E.(inactive), M.ASCE
    Houston, TX
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  • 6.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-09-2024 10:03 AM

    This entire paper was very interesting to someone that has been less plugged in on the research itself, but does work in the construction industry and writes safety plans. Probably the most surprising thing I saw was that human factors, while being the cause of many injuries, were not differentiators in serious injuries and fatalities. The biggest differentiators for serious injuries and fatalities were that there was 1) an absent or lack of following a work plan, or 2) a lack in direct controls to prevent the SIF's. What was also interesting was that "near misses" for SIF's were basically caused by the same 2 factors, so if you address the items you see in near misses in your updates to work plans and direct controls, you likely find ways to reduce SIF's. 



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    Lawrence Simonson P.E., M.ASCE
    Senior Engineer
    Bunnell-Lammons Engineering
    Greenville SC
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  • 7.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-09-2024 10:58 AM

    Delighted to learn of the interest!

    • To get on the mailing list for more:

    Dr. Siddharth Bhandari | Associate Director of Research, Construction Safety Research Alliance (CSRA) | 

    University of Colorado at Boulder

    https://www.csra.colorado.edu/

    https://www.csra.colorado.edu/csracop

    Cheers,

    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 8.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-22-2024 02:41 PM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 08-22-2024 02:41 PM

    Worked in very dangerous marine diving work of the past . OSHA ( Occupational Safety Health Administration ) guide line are helpful . Been in situation with injury and death happening with one incident . Keep safety consciousness up and back your front line people . 


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  • 9.  RE: The Things That Hurt People Are Not the Same as the Things That Kill People: Key Differences in the Proximal Causes of Low- and High-Severity Construction Injuries

    Posted 08-23-2024 09:32 AM
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    Thanks for sharing the post and your background Len!

    Re: "Keep safety consciousness up and back your front line people . "

    It seems clear to me that while your advice makes sense, in practice not

    certain it has been working.

    e.g., "Prevention By Design" feels and sounds good but still the results are not reliably safe.

    So, Len, if you would review the attached slide deck, and then provide more insight, it would be much appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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