Thanks Bill Mc.
Attachments support the recognition of the need this post intended to raise, or confirm.
William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
Buffalo, N.Y.
"It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
Original Message:
Sent: 11-17-2024 09:36 AM
From: William McAnally
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
I'm happy that you found a course description you like, Bill H. With the exception of "market assessment" it maps rather well to the existing engineering curricula that I am familiar with, so who would the naysayers be?
As for market assessment, engineering economics is a staple in most engineering programs. Business plans, intellectual property, risk assessment, and mitigation are available in an elective from the business colleges, if a student want to access it instead of an engineering course. However, if I were hiring a graduating engineer, I'd prefer they wait until they have a couple of years' work experience before investing time in the marketing side of my business. That makes me a naysayer on that item, unless it's an elective course.
Bill Mc
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William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
ENGINEER
Columbus MS
Original Message:
Sent: 11-16-2024 10:17 AM
From: William Hayden
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
Thanks Donovan!
- A recent sample from an engineering univ. program:
"Covers elements of engineering practices such as product engineering
(system design and engineering, integration, and documentation); engineering leadership
(team building, communication, leadership styles, ethical behavior, and conflict resolution);
market assessment (engineering economics, business plans, intellectual property, risk assessment, and mitigation);
and engineering excellence (quality, reliability, serviceability, manufacturability, procurement, and problem solving)."
- The ASEE-LEAD has worked on a strategic plan to help facilitate the orderly pilot versions of such.
Cheers,
Bill
p.s. Expect the naysayers to jump all over such changes to a system they grew up years ago learning within.
e.g., Coming from the "slide rule generation" of engineers, well, you can guess what I went through.
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William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
Buffalo, N.Y.
"It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
Original Message:
Sent: 11-06-2024 01:54 PM
From: Donovan Morrell
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
Hi William, I'm wondering what training might look like to improve these skills. Do you mind sharing your insights?
Sincerely,
Donovan Morrell
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Donovan Morrell A.M.ASCE
Daytona Beach FL
Original Message:
Sent: 11-04-2024 10:56 AM
From: William McAnally
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
Thanks for the comment, Lia. Since engineering education university are already constrained by external forces, training after graduation is an ideal way to obtain communication and time management skills.
Bill Mc
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William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
ENGINEER
Columbus MS
Original Message:
Sent: 11-01-2024 05:20 PM
From: Lia Clark
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
Agreed on the need for soft skills and communication. I started a consulting firm to address just those things! With consulting engineering professionals and also students and educations.
www.liaclark.com/engineer-with-empathy/
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Lia Clark A.M.ASCE
Manager
Austin TX
Original Message:
Sent: 10-31-2024 01:17 PM
From: William Hayden
Subject: Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
- Q1 of 2: What is the "Missing Ingredient" in Engineering Education?
One only has to learn of projects missing scope, schedule, and profit targets.
And far too many physically failing.
Turns out that while we taught engineers their technical work,
we neglected to teach them "How to play nice with others."
And educators refer to this knowledge and skill as "Soft."
No!
Engineers find tech somewhat "soft," and collaboration, cooperation, and communication "hard!"
Q2 of 2: What and how as we enter 2025 might we do to bring the education of engineers into their future, today?
Cheers,
Bill
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William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
Buffalo, N.Y.
"It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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