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Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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Working for a federal, state, or municipal government provides a more direct responsibility to the public. However, even working for a private engineering company on a private project still has a responsibility to anyone that uses that facility. There should be considerations for safety, ease-of-use, understanding, etc. Each person who works on the project should work together to ensure these considerations are met.

As a project manager I always made sure the construction site was well marked with signage and barrels to avoid confusion to the public. Older drivers have specific needs that must be accommodated.

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Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer IV
City of Milwaukee
Milwaukee WI
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 04:46
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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Hi Yance,

Thanks for your insights!

Public authorities and engineers altogether are responsible for and contribute to the safety of the general public who may be the stakeholders during construction and are intended users once the project is completed.

I believe contractors also are responsible for the general public in the construction of projects by adhering to specifications, safety regulations, etc.

I still hope to hear more voices from other members on this thread!

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James Wang], M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 13:26
From: Yance Marti
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Working for a federal, state, or municipal government provides a more direct responsibility to the public. However, even working for a private engineering company on a private project still has a responsibility to anyone that uses that facility. There should be considerations for safety, ease-of-use, understanding, etc. Each person who works on the project should work together to ensure these considerations are met.

As a project manager I always made sure the construction site was well marked with signage and barrels to avoid confusion to the public. Older drivers have specific needs that must be accommodated.

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Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer IV
City of Milwaukee
Milwaukee WI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 04:46
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

------------------------------
James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
------------------------------

Job site safety extends well beyond the site itself.  Surrounding sidewalks and streets need to have some level of protection from falling objects and cranes.  We once added a couple of floors over an active hospital.  A crash deck had to be installed to protect the occupants below from the construction above!

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Chad Morrison P.E., M.ASCE
Professional Engineer
Greenville RI
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 22:35
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi Yance,

Thanks for your insights!

Public authorities and engineers altogether are responsible for and contribute to the safety of the general public who may be the stakeholders during construction and are intended users once the project is completed.

I believe contractors also are responsible for the general public in the construction of projects by adhering to specifications, safety regulations, etc.

I still hope to hear more voices from other members on this thread!

------------------------------
James Wang], M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China

Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 13:26
From: Yance Marti
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Working for a federal, state, or municipal government provides a more direct responsibility to the public. However, even working for a private engineering company on a private project still has a responsibility to anyone that uses that facility. There should be considerations for safety, ease-of-use, understanding, etc. Each person who works on the project should work together to ensure these considerations are met.

As a project manager I always made sure the construction site was well marked with signage and barrels to avoid confusion to the public. Older drivers have specific needs that must be accommodated.

------------------------------
Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer IV
City of Milwaukee
Milwaukee WI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 04:46
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

------------------------------
James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
------------------------------

Hi Chad,

Great point!

I can't agree more! Thanks for your first-hand insights from the Construction side.

I hope other members will join this discussion!

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James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-02-2020 07:51
From: Chad Morrison
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Job site safety extends well beyond the site itself.  Surrounding sidewalks and streets need to have some level of protection from falling objects and cranes.  We once added a couple of floors over an active hospital.  A crash deck had to be installed to protect the occupants below from the construction above!

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Chad Morrison P.E., M.ASCE
Professional Engineer
Greenville RI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 22:35
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi Yance,

Thanks for your insights!

Public authorities and engineers altogether are responsible for and contribute to the safety of the general public who may be the stakeholders during construction and are intended users once the project is completed.

I believe contractors also are responsible for the general public in the construction of projects by adhering to specifications, safety regulations, etc.

I still hope to hear more voices from other members on this thread!

------------------------------
James Wang], M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China

Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 13:26
From: Yance Marti
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Working for a federal, state, or municipal government provides a more direct responsibility to the public. However, even working for a private engineering company on a private project still has a responsibility to anyone that uses that facility. There should be considerations for safety, ease-of-use, understanding, etc. Each person who works on the project should work together to ensure these considerations are met.

As a project manager I always made sure the construction site was well marked with signage and barrels to avoid confusion to the public. Older drivers have specific needs that must be accommodated.

------------------------------
Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer IV
City of Milwaukee
Milwaukee WI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 04:46
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

------------------------------
James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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Suggest a foundational resource for thinking about, and responding to your question(s):

•  3^rd edition, ASCE Manual 73 "Quality in the Constructed Project,"  2012.

Stay Healty!
Cheers,
Bill

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William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
Buffalo, N.Y.

"It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-05-2020 04:22 AM
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi Chad,

Great point!

I can't agree more! Thanks for your first-hand insights from the Construction side.

I hope other members will join this discussion!

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James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China

Original Message:
Sent: 03-02-2020 07:51
From: Chad Morrison
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Job site safety extends well beyond the site itself.  Surrounding sidewalks and streets need to have some level of protection from falling objects and cranes.  We once added a couple of floors over an active hospital.  A crash deck had to be installed to protect the occupants below from the construction above!

------------------------------
Chad Morrison P.E., M.ASCE
Professional Engineer
Greenville RI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 22:35
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi Yance,

Thanks for your insights!

Public authorities and engineers altogether are responsible for and contribute to the safety of the general public who may be the stakeholders during construction and are intended users once the project is completed.

I believe contractors also are responsible for the general public in the construction of projects by adhering to specifications, safety regulations, etc.

I still hope to hear more voices from other members on this thread!

------------------------------
James Wang], M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China

Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 13:26
From: Yance Marti
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Working for a federal, state, or municipal government provides a more direct responsibility to the public. However, even working for a private engineering company on a private project still has a responsibility to anyone that uses that facility. There should be considerations for safety, ease-of-use, understanding, etc. Each person who works on the project should work together to ensure these considerations are met.

As a project manager I always made sure the construction site was well marked with signage and barrels to avoid confusion to the public. Older drivers have specific needs that must be accommodated.

------------------------------
Yance Marti P.E., M.ASCE
Civil Engineer IV
City of Milwaukee
Milwaukee WI

Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 04:46
From: Jiqiu Wang
Subject: How owner, engineer, contractor implement their responsibility to the general public?

Hi all,

Hope you're doing great!

I would like to start a thread on the contributions and value (aside from business value and fanancial ones) to the general public and the society brought by a) engineer; b) contractor; c) construction manager d) project owner respectively?

As far as I know, project owner, engineer and contractor should take the ownership of general public's safety. How do they implement this responsibility differently?

Aside from the above, what else contribution do they bring to the general public? I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

------------------------------
James Wang, M.ASCE
Senior Cost Estimator
Turner & Townsend
Shenzhen, China
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