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  • 1.  Good Teaming

    Posted 08-21-2026 04:42 PM

    Teamwork is an integral part of many projects and other areas in life, but not all teams are equally effective.

    What have you found to be some critical factors for successful team efforts?

    Where did you learn them? In a course? From a book? At work?



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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  • 2.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 08-24-2026 10:09 AM
    • 60% of Projects Miss Their Contract Requirements. . .WHY(?)

    Because A/E/Cs were never educated, trained, and developed "To play nice with others!"

    In place of learning subjects related to proactive listening, collaboration, cooperation, and

    communication, their managers bring in "Conflict Management" consultants!

    Everything and everyone are connected, i.e., "Systems Thinking" is the

    people, process, tech and leadership model going forward.

    Respectfully,

    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 3.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 09-01-2026 05:30 PM

    Good points, Bill. I've often asked floundering teams if they have any training in teamwork skills, and the answer is nearly always "No." Some folks are naturally good at working with others and some never will be, but most of us can learn the skills that make teaming effective.

    Bill Mc



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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  • 4.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 08-26-2026 12:12 PM

    I've been on many teams throughout my life -- youth sports, school projects, clubs, committees, design teams, construction project teams, volunteer groups, etc. Some teams were better or more effective than others. I've found that much of what I know about teamwork was learned in those different team settings.

    One non-profit I volunteered with started out with a narrow and clear mission focus, and they were very effective. It was exciting to be a part of their impact and see the positive outcomes. The longer I was involved as a local volunteer, the more and more that headquarters seemingly added to the scope. Things got so muddied (and sometimes seemed counter to the original mission) that I got burned out and stopped participating. One thing I have learned is that great teams have a clear mission/goal they are trying to achieve, and any team efforts are tested against that guidepost before moving forward. 

    I had one school project where a classmate assigned to my team said out loud to the group, "Oh good, we got Heidi, so we know we'll get an A without even trying." Guess how wonderful that group dynamic was? (We did get an A, but I had to do pretty much all of it myself after that tone was set.) We were all peers. We all had the same background information. There was no real "leader" position, and no one in the team had the ability to produce consequences for non-contribution or reward for exceptional work. I learned in those types of teams how important it is to have someone with the authority to assign roles and create a culture of accountability.

    Construction projects are an interesting combination of different companies, contracts, and perspectives. In my experience, they go much more smoothly when the different parties are able to leverage their skills and knowledge. For example, engineers need to admit that there are constructability constraints they need input on from the contractor.  And contractors need to admit that there are codes and calculations they need an engineer to review or complete before deviations from plans are made in the field. From those multi-disciplinary teams, I've learned that one of the most critical aspects of teamwork is being humble enough to admit what you do and don't know.



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    Heidi C. Wallace, P.E., M.ASCE
    Tulsa, OK
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  • 5.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 09-01-2026 05:30 PM

    Excellent lessons learned, Heidi. I agree that having a clearly articulated mission and goals together with capable leadership are essential to high performance teams. 

    Bill Mc



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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  • 6.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 09-03-2026 04:47 PM

    <> 60% of Projects Miss Their Contract Requirements. . .WHY(?)

    Because A/E/Cs were never educated, trained, and developed "How To play nice with others!"

    In place of learning subjects related to proactive listening, collaboration, cooperation, and communication, their managers bring in "Conflict Management" consultants!

    Everything and everyone are connected, i.e., "Systems Thinking" is the
    people, process, tech and leadership model going forward.
    Respectfully,
    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 7.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 08-26-2026 04:00 PM

    We discussed high-performing teams in December 2025, which is relevant to your question and might provide additional insights.

     https://collaborate.asce.org/professionaltopics/discussion/attributes-of-high-performing-teamsorganizations-your-experience

    In my view, the skills to lead teams and be a good team member come from observation and practice and cannot be taught. Working in an organization that values teamwork helps, as it provides positive role models. One can still learn from organizations that don't do it well. In both cases, it takes one to reflect on what's working or not working and why to build the skills needed to be a good team member and eventually a good team leader. Leadership support, commitment, and modeling of good team skills are also essential. You can't ask people to do something that you are unwilling or incapable of doing.



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    Mitch Winkler P.E.(inactive), M.ASCE
    Houston, TX
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  • 8.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 09-01-2026 05:30 PM

    Thanks for pointing us back to that previous discussion, Mitch. It had some good thoughts expressed.

    I agree in part and disagree in part with your statement, "... the skills to lead teams and be a good team member come from observation and practice and cannot be taught." IMO we can eventually learn those skills through observation and practice but the better, faster way is the same as it is for any skill from swimming to mathematics -- to be taught the mechanics of how to do it properly, then to practice it until mastery occurs. 

    When I taught lab courses, giving students brief instructions on teaming skills greatly reduced conflicts over the types of problems Heidi described and appeared to produce better work.

    Bill Mc



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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  • 9.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 09-03-2026 04:47 PM

    Hi Mitch!

    Really(?)

    "In my view, the skills to lead teams and be a good team member come from observation and practice and cannot be taught. "

    Consider the results of that approach noted in the referenced, dated paper.

    Cheers,   

    Bill

    ·        " How to Transform Failure into Success: Forensic Management[1]"

                         By William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., F.ASCE

    JOURNAL OF PERFORMANCE OF CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES © ASCE / FEBRUARY 2007



    [1] J. Perform. Constr. Facil., 2007, 21(1): 2-3



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 10.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 28 days ago

    To One & All:

    In case you did not recall,

    ASCE cancelled the LME Journal.

    Now you may access all of its papers and download for free.  🤙

    Cheers, Bill

    ·         Leadership and Management in Engineering[1]



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 11.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 28 days ago

    The attached paper notes my learning within our profession as we went

    from "Segmented Silos" into "Systems Thinking."

    The knowledge for this needs to be integrated into academia and practice, collaboratively.

    Cheers,  🤙

    Bill

    ·         "Human Systems Engineering™ – A Trilogy, Part III:

    Managing Projects Successfully in a World of Uncertainty."

                          By William M. Hayden Jr., PhD

    ·         https://pmworldjournal.com/article/human-systems-engineering-a-trilogy-part-iii



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 12.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 25 days ago

    Bill – Mc, this post and others posted earlier (thanks Mitch for linking one: The Attributes of High performing Team . . .) - show how engineers lay importance on team work – in your words, the critical factors of successful team efforts.

    I will try not to repeat what we have discussed in the past – instead, will try to focus on engineering 'Habits of Mind' – and on 'Systems Thinking' and the role and responsibility of Team-Lead (Bill-H points out these two, more often).

    As in the Civil Engineering on our Seashore – I have quoted NAP #12635 Publication . . . Engineering "habits of mind" (refer to the values, attitudes, and thinking skills associated with engineering; AAAS 1990) . . . The six identified essential habits are: systems thinking, creativity, optimism (team spirit), collaboration, communication, and attention to ethical considerations.

    We all know what habits are – in literature, it is defined as a routine behavior that becomes nearly automatic – and there comes the necessity of distinguishing between good and bad. The 'habits of mind' refer to good habits.

    And systems thinking really envelops all the habits – id est, system parameters or variables of a problem, technical or otherwise – of team works – of collaboration – of communications – and so on. Systems thinking opens the door – to wide perspective views – to rationalizing things.

    To accomplish all these – some must lead and manage – and a team-lead occupies that important position. He or she has the dominant role to steer things towards the right direction – to problem solving – to business handling – to getting things done within the constraints of various sorts.

    What if, the team-lead is not competent enough? Well, then everything falls apart, irrespective of how good the team members are. Further more, the leader incompetency or inadequacy permeates to team members dragging all down.

    And, there comes another aspect of what people's wisdom says – as in the Leadership and Management . . . There is a Spanish saying: fish starts to smell at the head, so does a bad leadership style . . .

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    Dr. Dilip K Barua, PhD

    Website Links and Profile








  • 13.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 15 days ago
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    • "Prevention Through Collaboration"

    • v PROJECT SUCCESS STARTS BEFORE TASKS BEGIN! ™
    • ·         "Prevention Through Collaboration™" is academically and intellectually known to most.

    • ·         "Our Yesterday's:

    Yet we have experienced project work mainly in discipline/tech silos,

    "You know, just like in our academic university programs."

    • ·         "Our TOMORROWS":

    What was, was.

    What is, is.

    What will be remains a choice.

                       -Arnold Horshack

    Just for today,

    "Do or Do Not!

    There is no try."

                -Yoda

    Respectfully,

    Bill



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    William M. Hayden Jr., Ph.D., P.E., CMQ/OE, F.ASCE
    Buffalo, N.Y.

    "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot 1819 - 1880
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  • 14.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 15 days ago

    Wm Mc,

    I don't participate often in these sessions but this subject is grossly misunderstood as reflected by the discussion prior.

    There are thousands of programs, TED talks, college classes and traveling lecturers, and PDH sessions devoted to teaching and preaching leadership.  It is crammed down everyone's throats!  The problem is no one teaches followership!

    I have seen and attended one course / session at a conference nearly two decades ago that was poorly attended.  The presenter was from South Carolina, I recall, and had a church pastor speaking rhythm.  It was a very good presentation. Teams that are full of leaders fail.  Just look at the U.S. Congress as an example.  They all want to lead and no one follows as a result.  Tams fail if everyone wants to lead.

    I disagree with Bill H. that engineers are not taught team work.   I disagree.  At least they used to be taught the subject.  It was drilled into us at Iowa State from the first month of our freshman year to graduation.  We were assigned teams to do assignments in English, Chemistry, Physics, various Surveying and Civil Engineering classes and labs.  Our program was full of team assignments.  If you didn't get it, you were too dense or stubborn to grasp the lesson being taught, "You will be required to work in teams in real life work." 

    Now, Heidi raises a good point, what happens when the team members do not want to work?  That is another issue entirely.   I recently took the drastic step of embarrassing a young consulting engineer fairly recently out of school in front of the entire project team and his supervisor as well.  Why?  To get their attention that they were not working as a team!  They had all the data needed in their office and just needed to think but were being lazy, were ignorant of how to do the design work (which could be possible), or just untrained.  I wasn't a happy client that day after hearing a lame answer and did not enjoy doing it. But, they were delaying everyone else on a $90M project for something that took about 20 minutes to do!  After delivering my berating address, actually telling them how to do the task and providing them the likely answer with absolutely no calculations but a good memory of flow rates in water lines for fire demand, the room and online attendees were shockingly very quiet.  After a brief pause, the supervisor, who was online, sheepishly agreed with me and they provided an answer in writing the next morning.

    This is an example in failed leadership and failed followership.  How can you be on a team if you don't want to participate?   I think Gens X, Y and Z were overloaded on leadership and not enough followership.  They can be taught both and when to do both.  The NFL is full of examples now where egotistical "leaders" don't want to follow.  A wide receiver can't throw themselves a pass.  If everyone on the defense goes to the ball, it is easy to defeat them.  Same in engineering.  Teams can work but as Heidi notes, the natural leaders will come to the forefront but those unwilling to follow and work in a team manner will also expose themselves.      



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    Bradley Novacek PE
    Phoenix, AZ
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  • 15.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 15 days ago

    I think there is a difference between being made to work in teams or on group projects in school and training on teamwork. You could put me behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car a few times a year, but without specific instructions and feedback, I'm never going to become an effective racecar driver just for having been in the driver's seat. I don't think I learned much of value about teamwork from many of my group assignments in classes besides who I didn't want to have to work with again.

    I am intrigued by the idea of followership training. But, at the end of the day, I think an effective leader is ultimately responsible for guiding those assigned to them and, if they lack internal motivation and a desire to be there, for encouraging them (or sending them on their way) to find what they actually want to do. By setting clear expectations, having consistent communication, and genuinely  getting to know the employee, you are teaching them what it takes to be successful under your leadership. Where it seems to me that many go wrong is by assuming that leading means being at the top and harshly bossing around everyone under you. To me, the best and most effective leaders are open to ideas and feedback from every level. An intern engineer can be a "leader" in some sense of the word within the organization by taking ownership of what they have been assigned, paying attention to what is happening around them, speaking to those with more organizational authority about areas of improvement or things that are going well, and representing the company well to clients and other consultants. If you wait to figure out leadership until you have organizational authority and direct reports, it's awfully late in the game.  

    At the end of the day, I think a good leader is responsible for cultivating and training up effective team members to empower them in their current role and prepare them for next next step on their career track. 



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    Heidi C. Wallace, P.E., M.ASCE
    Tulsa, OK
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  • 16.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 12 days ago

    You make some thought-provoking points. An important element of leadership for me is knowing when to shut up and let others speak. When you let your ego enter the equation, you've lost the plot and might as well write your effectiveness off. I hadn't thought before that teamwork and leadership were related, and now I see many parallels. 



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    Mitch Winkler P.E.(inactive), M.ASCE
    Houston, TX
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  • 17.  RE: Good Teaming

    Posted 10 hours ago

    Summing up, thanks to all for the insightful comments. This topic pops up regularly because teamwork looms large in our work lives and because it can be so productive when done well or so painful when done poorly.

    Bill H, Dilip, Heidi, Mitch, and Bradley got it right when they said that successful teams need both excellent leadership AND followership skills. My several DoD leadership workshops emphasized that good leaders must also be good followers and ground into us how to be good followers.

    Heidi noted that leaders must have and use the authority to set clear goals and accountability standards. Organizations that form teams of equals set them up for failure. Every team must have an appointed or elected leader. At the university where I taught, the senior design capstone teams rated each other for their contributions, and those ratings were part of their course grade.

    Our discussion shows many organizations, particularly schools, approach teamwork in the wrong way – assigning us to teamwork without providing controls or prerequisite training, expecting us to learn by doing it wrong. It's akin to the old practice of throwing a child into the deep end of a pool and shouting, "Swim!" or Heidi's example of putting a novice behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car.

    How to do it right? According to our discussion:

    1. Start with short courses on teaming skills such as the 4 stages of group dynamics, personality types and how to deal with them, goals and processes, clear communications, leadership and followership, creative problem solving, conflict resolution, reliability and accountability and systems thinking. Then workshop teaming to practice those skills with feedback.
    2. Appoint leaders or set rules for their election.
    3. Establish clear, specific objectives and rules, including accountability
    4. There are dozens of books, papers, and many such courses available. Use them.

    What else?

    Bill Mc



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    William McAnally Ph.D., P.E., BC.CE, BC.NE, F.ASCE
    ENGINEER
    Columbus MS
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