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Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

  • 1.  Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 21 days ago

    I am captivated by the history around me in the ASCE National Capital Section, and there is an archaeological area of interest on my current project. There are also five National Historic Civil Engineering Landmarks (NHCELs) in the DC/MD/VA region. (You can find a listing here: https://asce-ncs.org/index.php/committees/history-heritage/237-the-historic-civil-engineering-landmark-program.)

    This leaves me to wonder if any ASCE members have an archaeological story to share! Have you been involved in a project where a historical object was uncovered during construction? What measures did the project take thereafter? Or, have you heard of any interesting archaeological finds on other civil engineering projects?

    I look forward to hearing your experiences!

    Thank you for your time,

    Jameelah



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    Jameelah Ingram, P.E., M.ASCE
    Washington, D.C.
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  • 2.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 21 days ago
    Many years back I bid on some infrastructure work on Hontoon Island in Florida. Hontoon Island State Park The project included a full time on site archeologist, on call biologist and ships barge captain. It was fun to learn about all the intricacies of managing such a project.  
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    Jesse Kamm PhD, PMP, A.M.ASCE
    Senior Vice President of Construction Management
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  • 3.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 21 days ago
    I once had a geotechnical internship where the contractor was digging footings in South Philadelphia. They dug down deep enough that brickwork from an old abandoned basement started to be seen and soon started adding bricks into the trench. I also remember seeing a few glass bottles, which must have been stored there.  So a little "local history", but nothing that caused the project to be stopped.

    I went to Italy a few years ago, and recall a guide mentioning that in Rome, projects are halted all the time since every new excavation seems to turn up something from the height of the Roman Empire. All throughout the city, random patches are fenced off to preserve major landmarks that have survived the passage of time. Very exciting to see in person!

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    Christopher Seigel P.E., M.ASCE
    Civil Engineer
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  • 4.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 20 days ago
    Jameelah, I appreciate your enthusiasm for our history and archaeology! For most projects on which I've been involved, owners, developers, and engineers deride the need for archaeological interrogations. Rather than having an interest in what may have come before, they seem to view such investigations as a waste of time and money. Working here in central Oklahoma, there's so much pre-Columbian history to explore, it's almost a shame archaeological exploration isn't a more routine part of development, especially for greenfield projects!

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    Joel Dixon P.E., M.ASCE
    Project Manager
    Oklahoma City OK
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  • 5.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 10 days ago
    Smart developers on some projects I have been involved in called in an archeologist as soon as there was any evidence that there might be something of interest, and then used the discoveries for public relations and marketing purposes.  They not only proactively avoided major delays, they gained a benefit.

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    William Forbes MASCE, PE, ME, BCEE
    Senior Principal Engineer/Vice President of Engineering
    Forensic Analysis & Engineering Corporation
    Virginia Beach, Virginia
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  • 6.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 19 days ago
    Building a new riverfront park and infrastructure this year for post industrial development on a site that had been heavily industrialized for over a century, we were lucky to be able to satisfy the State's historical preservation requirements by enlisting the assistance of some very talented and knowledgeable University of Oregon archaeology grad students who were on site for all major excavation work.  Several finds of significance were photographed, documented, and sampled for the University's on campus museum, and for someone like myself who has a keen interest in history, the whole experience was very educational.  By having such assistance, delays were kept to a minimum, minutes rather than days.

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    David Schweitzer P.E., M.ASCE
    Engineer Tech 2
    Eugene OR
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  • 7.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 16 days ago
    I was neither at a project site, nor was I with a shovel digging, however I found that a neighborhood had a certain characteristic that told the history... it's not exactly archaeology but it is a story of that anthropology through observing the characteristics, which I might assume is a creationism vs. a history in question.  It might be a civil engineering project to observe the characteristics pertinent to the Canal that forms a water body in the middle of the hottest American deserts of Metropolis Phoenix, Arizona.
      While on a superior level; the patterns of history are sometimes mitigated by other fields of history, that when observed from such perspective one may see an origin.  Ie.  A Dinosaur Bone is hypothetically a Dinosaur Bone; however, whenst the creator may manifest flesh and bone, perhaps a part of a plight of a sentient being at another level exists there.
      I had seen that a neighborhood in Phoenix seemed as though it was assembled and then disarrayed.  In the assembled function of the block, I saw a sort of 'Tibeto-Nepal-Bhutto' function of a series of buildings.  I did not conduct any research of city documents, it just became very prevalent that that function was there.  Rudely "idealized", but idyllically cast such as a Cog on a Horse Drawn Carriage.
      In a prior year, several years before, I had been wandering along similar grounds with fewer buildings and picked up mica chips from time to time.  Mind you the discovery was during my stay at what resembles an Arizona ghost town in the city center.

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    Refugio Rochin P.E., M.ASCE
    Asst. Eng.1
    Naxutl, Inc.
    Albuquerque NM
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  • 8.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 16 days ago
    Arrowheads
    These are the arrowheads I keep in my office in memory of my late colleague.  He found them behind our previous office in Wyoming, Rhode Island.


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    Chad Morrison P.E., M.ASCE
    Professional Engineer
    Greenville RI
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  • 9.  RE: Archaeological Discoveries Anyone?

    Posted 10 days ago
    Archaeology is a hidden (literally or contestually wording) resource for Civil Engineers to put their ideas in proper perspective. Many designs from our profession actually existed thousands of years ago. Jameelah's project would be very meaningful as well as educational. Good choice!

    Samuel Ng, Ph.D., F. ASCE

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    Samuel Ng P.E., F.ASCE
    President
    Plymouth MN
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