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Non licensed person listed as a PE

  • 1.  Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-09-2021 01:51 PM
    Just wanting to know the thoughts out there. I reviewed a report signed by a Licensed Engineer in my state. In the body of the report it listed anther persons name with PE after it then noted they are not licensed in my state. Checking with the state, they are not and wondering thoughts on do I call them, turn them in, or just let it go?

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    George Miles P.E., M.ASCE
    President
    Alligator Engineering Inc
    Edgewater FL
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  • 2.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-09-2021 08:23 PM
    I'm not sure what you would report.   If they are registered in another state, they are still P.Es.  They aren't the P.E. of record who signed the report, and the report made it clear that their registration was in another state.   I would be surprised if this was considered any sort of ethical issue.

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    Timothy Murphy P.E., M.ASCE
    Professor
    Trine University
    Angola IN
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  • 3.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-10-2021 09:51 AM
    I got a warning years ago for sending an email to another state on a joint project for having PE after my name and not being licensed.  The email said what states I had but the board said that was still a violation since I was not licensed in that state. 





  • 4.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-11-2021 12:42 PM
    I sincerely doubt that any state board could enforce any type of action against you for an email that lists you as a PE in your identified state. That's ridiculous.

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    Bevin Beaudet P.E., M.ASCE
    President/Owner
    Bevin A. Beaudet, P.E., LLC.
    Bethlehem PA
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  • 5.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-11-2021 03:18 PM
    I think part of it depends on the state and in the context it was used. In this context, they were using it as if they were a licensed PE which he is which he is but not in the state which the report was issued. So the question becomes if you're using the person using as a PE in your report then he must be licensed in that state.  
     I think this is gonna take a call to the board for clarification





  • 6.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-11-2021 04:17 PM
    I would say that most of the work I did as a consultant was outside my state of licensure.   But I was never the engineer of record signing documents, so there were never any issues.   Ultimately, isn't it just the signator who assumes all the responsibility for the work being done?   It still seems that if that original report made it clear the licenses were in other states, they weren't misrepresenting themselves.  But I guess certain states might see it differently.

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    Timothy Murphy P.E., M.ASCE
    Professor
    Trine University
    Angola IN
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  • 7.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-12-2021 09:40 AM
    The context of your subject report is not clear. Based on your rational, if an engineer is writing a port based on research by a PhD and PE in another state and he references such work of an engineer, is that a violation?

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    Lutfi Mized P.E., M.ASCE
    President/Structural Engineer
    LPM Technical Services Inc
    Merritt Island FL
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  • 8.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-12-2021 02:11 PM
    Update for clarity for everyone.

    The report was prepared by an Engineer licensed in Alabama for  the State of Florida and signed by an Engineer licensed in Florida.

    The Florida PE board just responded and said that if you are not licensed in the State then you cannot have PE after your name in any report or official document it is a violation of Florida rule and in fact it is a rule in most states. So if you are putting PE after your name for a report or official document that will be stamped by another Engineer in another state were you are not licensed, you can be in trouble and fined.

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    George Miles P.E., M.ASCE
    President
    Alligator Engineering Inc
    Edgewater FL
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  • 9.  RE: Non licensed person listed as a PE

    Posted 07-13-2021 10:06 AM