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  • 1.  Difference between upturn and drop down beam

    Posted 07-19-2017 02:49 PM
    Edited by Veronique Nguyen 07-19-2017 02:51 PM

    Hello everyone  
    I am looking for more clarification between upturn beam and drop-down beam, and where a drop-down Beam can be used effectively. Any insight would be especially helpful.



  • 2.  RE: Difference between upturn and drop down beam

    Posted 08-28-2017 12:58 PM
    Assuming you are talking about residential construction,
    an "upturn" beam is typically used in the ceiling of a top floor where the top of the beam extends into an attic,
    and a "drop beam" is used in the ceiling over a garage or anywhere that the bottom of the beam does not extend into a usable area.
    They are used when the depth of the beam required for a greater strength is actually greater than the depth of the joists around it.

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    Gary W. Boyd P.E., M.ASCE
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    Boyd Engineering Inc
    Magnolia TX
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  • 3.  RE: Difference between upturn and drop down beam

    Posted 08-29-2017 09:29 AM
    A "flush" beam is one where bottom of beam is flush with bottom of joists. A "drop" beam is under the joists and ceiling.

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    G Robert Fuller P.E., M.ASCE
    G ROBERT FULLER, PE
    Washington DC
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  • 4.  RE: Difference between upturn and drop down beam

    Posted 08-29-2017 05:55 PM
    The primary difference (assuming a single span or condition where positive moment controls) is that upturned beams lack the lateral support, normally provided by the deck or joists, for the top (compression) portion of the beam section. 


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    Manuel Morden P.E., S.E., M.ASCE
    MMSE Consulting Structural Engineer
    Sherman Oaks CA
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  • 5.  RE: Difference between upturn and drop down beam

    Posted 10-31-2017 05:04 PM
    Upturn beam is as mentioned a beam where the beam depth is greater than the depth of the framing that is supporting. The compression edge/side of the beam is usually "buried" in the wall/framing above. The drop down beam supports the framing from below, for example running TJI's continuous over the top or full bearing at the end of the span. A flush beam is set flush to the top for example TJI's plane out at the top of the beam and you can run the floor sheathing continuous over the framing and the beam. There are settle differences between all three and different design methodologies that should be considered. For example,upturn beam needs to be checked for buckling in the compression edge and the attachment to it. If you are attaching to the side of the beam and below the neutral axis it will effective shear area and/or cross grain tension. I hope that helps.
    Cheers,

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    Allen McCoin A.M.ASCE

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