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  • 1.  Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-09-2018 08:05 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-09-2018 08:04 AM
    Hello all,
    I'm looking for input in installing an HSS steel beam with horizontal welded shear studs at one end, while it's either welded or bolted on the other end. It can be seen in the case of connecting a precast wall to a concrete column. Beam is bolted to column but grouted into the face of the wall after studs embedded.

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    Sayed Maqsood S.M.ASCE
    Student
    Oakland CA
    (510)395-4361
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  • 2.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-17-2018 08:01 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-17-2018 08:00 AM
    Dear Sayed,

    It would help if you could present your question by a sketch; a sketch speaks a thousand words; while text can be visualized in different ways by different people.

    I'm looking forward to seeing your sketch.


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    Neil Kazen, M.Eng., M.Sc., P.Eng.
    FASCE, FCPCI, FEC,
    Retired Structural Engineering Manager, Transportation Division, SNC-Lavalin
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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  • 3.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-17-2018 01:58 PM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-17-2018 01:57 PM
      |   view attached
    Posting sketch for original question on behalf of Sayed.

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    Stephanie Slocum P.E., M.ASCE
    Founder
    Engineers Rising LLC
    www.engineersrising.com
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  • 4.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-18-2018 07:49 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-22-2018 08:16 PM
    Thank you Stephanie for sharing the sketch. One of the group's member asked for a  rough sketch while, I was at a coffee shop waiting for my order at moment, all I found was a napkin... it is just a draft but still can describe one thousand words...

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    Sayed Maqsood S.M.ASCE

    Oakland CA
    (510)395-4361
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  • 5.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-18-2018 07:49 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-18-2018 07:48 AM

    Dear Stephanie Lynn Slocum,  

    Detail description of the sketch drawing is necessary for the understanding, otherwise it will look like an illustration or typical design case study.
    Thanks.



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    Olusegun Afolabi P.E., M.ASCE
    University of Lagos
    Lagos
    234803 4248600
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  • 6.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-21-2018 11:27 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-21-2018 11:27 AM
    I would second what Olusegun said. 

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    Neil Kazen, M.Eng., M.Sc., P.Eng.
    FASCE, FCPCI, FEC,
    Retired Structural Engineering Manager, Transportation Division, SNC-Lavalin
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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  • 7.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-22-2018 09:55 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-22-2018 09:54 AM
    Why not have the precaster embed the connection plate instead of trying to grout the studs into a pocket?  Then the field installation portion becomes a field weld instead of grouting; which I would think would be easier and more reliable.

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    Eric Christensen P.E., M.ASCE
    Merrick & Company
    Los Alamos NM
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  • 8.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs
    Best Answer

    Posted 10-22-2018 12:21 PM
    Edited by Sayed Maqsood 10-23-2018 02:13 AM
    I agree with Eric Christensen regarding casting the embed plates into the precast piece when the piece cast, unless of course, the connection is a retrofit to a piece that is already cast. If it is a retrofit, I would utilize a post-installed anchor system that meets the ACI cracked concrete requirements and the seismic requirements for the area; I would not rely on a grouted shear stud type of connection into the vertical face of a precast member. Just my opinion after 48 years of practice...

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    Larry M. Swayze, P. E., M. ASCE
    Senior Structural Consultant/Managing Member
    L. M. Swayze Engineers, PLLC
    Austin, TX

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  • 9.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-23-2018 10:01 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-23-2018 10:00 AM
    I agree 100%, Larry Swayze.  In a retrofit situation PI anchors are the best bet.

    I also had to laugh; "Just my opinion after 48 years of practice..."  *drops mic*

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    Eric Christensen P.E., M.ASCE
    Merrick & Company
    Los Alamos NM
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  • 10.  RE: Horizontal Shear Studs

    Posted 10-24-2018 08:11 AM
    Edited by Tirza Austin 10-24-2018 08:11 AM
    Dear group members,

    I appreciate all your comments and suggestions. I would second considering PI anchorage for retrofitting structural members. Steel plate PI embedment into the face of precast wall is often use for welding none-structural members to it. Grouting into the precast to install beam would be just fine design, in the case of connecting  a none-structural steel beam to the face of the wall.

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    Sayed Maqsood S.M.ASCE

    Oakland CA
    (510)395-4361
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